Friday, March 4, 2011

Davis Cup R1 vs Romania - Day 1

Update
David has won the first point of this tie for Argentina, defeating Romania's #2 Adrian Ungur 6-3, 6-2, 5-7, 6-4.

Having broken into tears after converting his first match point after a little over three hours on court, David said in his post-match interview that he felt "rather bad" for most of the match, with his problems (apparently also with his adductor) having started in the first set. And according to him, this match was "suffering" as well as "a great effort".
One that means that he won't play on Sunday. What it will mean for the coming weeks and months - that's something David didn't want to say anything about. Not yet. (Photo: AP Photo)

More soon...





It's the first Davis Cup tie of the year. And to get us started (at 11am local/2pm GMT/9am EST): David, playing a match against Adrian Ungur that's surrounded by uncertainty and questions, regarding his physical state and the (apparently sports) hernia that's troubling him. Even though, according to David, "there's no risk. There's only the pain to endure. I'll do whatever it takes, the discomfort is minimal and it's not going to keep me from playing." (Source.)Whether the discomfort really will be minimal and how well David will be able to play - we'll see.
In any case, for David there can be no doubt about the objective for this match, with or without pain: "I don't think about anything but winning the point for my country." - But also, more specifically, for Pico: "I want to win my point to give comfort to Monaco, as his match will be very tough. Without doubt, Hanescu is the player to beat." (Source.)

And in the second match of the day, it'll be up to Juan "Pico" Monaco to try and do just that:


(photos: Natacha Pisarenko/AP Photo)

David is not the only one who knows about the importance of the second rubber and hopes that Argentina will be in the lead by the time it is played. In Pico's words: "I hope that David wins so I can walk on court with a 1-0 lead and I'm able to play calmly. Anyway, I've had a good clay swing and I'm aware that mine will be a key point because Hanescu is the best of them." (Source.)
Victor Hanescu on the other hand, who has been speaking very highly of David these last few days, has shown himself to be rather confident about his chances of winning this match. Even though he has identified a possible problem: "The crowd will of course be louder than at an ATP event but I hope that we'll be treated with respect and that it won't turn into an additional complication." (Source.)

When the Davis Cup draw for 2011 came out five months ago, this looked like a very makeable first round for Argentina. Now, pretty much anything seems possible. Still, the big question remains to be - David. What part he'll be able to play in this tie and where his path will lead afterwards...

100 comments:

  1. Guys, here is the 5-minutes-yesterday-vid that i promised!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxGauYJkrqw

    hope you like it :)

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  2. Very nice Tamar! Thank you very much, I liked it very much. It is very nice to see David with your help!

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  3. There wont be live stream on davis cup tv as i heard!Any idea for live streaming?

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  4. i only lose my hopes for live streaming when Julia says so.
    Is there gonna be any ?

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  5. Thanks, Tamar. I'll watch that when I get home from work.

    I'm hoping to be able to watch the live scoreboard today.

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  6. Noubar, right now, LSH and Fromsport are saying they'll have streams. And if all else fails, there's still justin.tv.
    I just can't understand why the tie will be shown neither on DavisCup.tv, nor Bet365...
    Anyway, I wouldn't put "streams will be added" in the sidebar if there were none. ;)

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  7. I'm showing Fromsport and LSH also, so I don't think there will a problem getting a live stream.

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  8. Big round of applause and cheers for David at the introduction of the teams.

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  9. For some reason (and to the amusement of Romanian captain Andrei Pavel) they insist on playing the Romanian anthem in its complete, epic length... lol

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  10. Looks like there are quite a few seats available at Parque Roca.

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  11. Anyone who's watching, how's he looking?
    Scoreboard seems to be progressing slowly.

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  12. David's got to get more first serves in. Ungur is jumping on his second. I can't see any movement problems with David.

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  13. Ungur risks everything and has not less succes. Some good winners from him. I began to watch the match after 2:1 so haven't seen much but David looks good.

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  14. 3:3 and deuce on Ungur's serve

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  15. 3:2, sorry, but now 3:3

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  16. 3:3 15:40, breakchances for Ungur
    now 30:40,

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  17. 2nd serve... David comes to net, hits the ball to Ungur, but he can't win the point and hits the ball long ..... now adv. ... and game David.
    4:3 for David. He has won his last 2 service games after being down with 15:40

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  18. 4-3 is the ideal time to break in a set, cmmon david

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  19. 4:3 and breakchance for David at 30:40

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  20. 5:3 :) sports hernia can be so good

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  21. 5:3 15:0 for David, but now 15:40 :(

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  22. 30:40, can David win the 3rd game in a row after being down with 15:40?

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  23. are you here Istrabaq??:)
    6:3 for David

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  24. and he did, hope in the 2nd set will be easier

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  25. I know it since long. Sometimes David is the best in saving break points, in bad days he can't win himself one of many of them and then can't save 1 BP in the following game.

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  26. I hope too, but only if he makes less errors I think

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  27. The cardiac kid certainly likes to live dangerously. I agree, Ashot. What sports hernia?

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  28. first Nalbandian-lob

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  29. anybody recording??

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  30. @ John
    you know David has said he has a sports hernia. Right now he looks good on the court :) I hope it remains so

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  31. I really want David to have the surgery, but after IW :)
    for me, he looks like he can play a tournament before doing it.

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  32. I just watched the video of Tamar too. Again very good summary of David's training Tamar.

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  33. Yep, I know, Ashot. It's just the way he's playing makes it look like he doesn't have one. Let's hope it continues.

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  34. Noubar, in the end of last year we saw enough matches from David going down physically after one or two sets.

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  35. wow 2 return winners from David

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  36. David won last 8 of 9 points and that with very strong games.

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  37. 6-3 6-2 looking good, 6-1 in the third would be nice

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  38. Yes, I'm here - on and off. Thanks, for all the details. :-)

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  39. David is having pain not only from the hernia but from the adductor muscle, per the Argentine TV commentators. He has told his physio he can't stand it anymore in the first set. That is why he is shortening th points by playing winners every time he can.

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  40. this time David wins his service game after 0:40. 3:3

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  41. wow, is this the center court of French Open

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  42. hope david not breaking at 4-4 will not turn vital.now comes davids favorite part, serving for staying

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  43. Really didnt want to see a 4 set,but here we are.

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  44. really really bad from David, he played an entire set couldnt convert game point at least to let a TB decide it, that was school boy stuff.
    now this match could go absolutely anywhere , david lost it

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  45. Ungor is starting to feel he has a chance.

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  46. How did he get there,great stuff from David

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  47. Is David crying? I was away after the 3rd set.

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  48. plsssss tell me scores, my stream died

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  49. he seems to suffer a lot on break point converted and he seems crying. ????

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  50. I think he was crying because of pain like against Soderling in 2008.

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  51. Tears of joy I hope.

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  52. It ended safely, thank God. I dont think David will play Hanescu on Snaday, too much risk, but again we are never sure when it comes to David and Davis.
    now bring out Juan Monaco.

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  53. Congratulation, after a tough match continued for 3 hours.

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  54. Heroic preformance,he was crying during the on court interview,dont speak Spanish,would be happy if someone could say what he said.

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  55. on fromsport the best quality stream is above which used to watch the match. It was romanian and didn't show the intervew. But I can't wait for the press conferenceto, the interview and everything what David will say about himself

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  56. Adrian: during the interview while he was crying he said that from middle of the first set he suffered unexpected great pain. If it hadn't been DC he would have quit the match. He said he would be not playing Saturday nor Sunday and that he was happy to earn the first point so Pico Monaco could play more at ease against Hanescu.

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  57. my conclusion was right he wont play against hanescu, well its a logical choice. cant wait for highlights, hope Joop will get it done.

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  58. If Monaco and the doubles pair lose their matches I would bet a lot of money that we would see Nalby on Sunday.Thanks for the interview Diego.

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  59. Thank goodness he won. I had to leave after the third set and just got back. Logged into LSH and was relieved to see Pico and Hanescu playing. I'm sure Pico breathed a sigh of relief after David won.

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  60. Well Pico is realy a very good player on clay, he has all what it takes, Speed, accuracy, fighting spirit, he only lacks a bit of power in his ground strokes.
    lets hope he can pull this out, his inside out forehands, always loved them

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  61. I'm reading now that David can hardly walk after the match (Fue Buena).

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  62. Oh dear, this is not good at all.

    Thanks for keeping me up to date, folks. I had to keep sneaking back to my desk to look.

    Now I'm home I see Pico has taken the first set. :) but... uh-oh! Is that a break of serve? :(

    Please let Argentina win this 3-0. I know I haven't seen the state David's in, but somehow I don't trust him not to try to rise from the dead and play on Sunday.

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  63. guys, this vid i have just uploaded . it is from david's press conference

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/David-Nalbandian-es-un-idolo-total/120996084591770?v=wall#!/video/video.php?v=10150104176354403&oid=120996084591770&comments

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  64. Looks like it could be a long one between Pico and Hanescu. Ah, a beautiful get by Pico to break and go up 1-0 in the 3rd set.

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  65. I loved the Vasquez reaction,classic stuff,him Pico and Nalby all look fired up for this tie.On the other hand David looks like hes dying on the sideline watching the match.

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  66. Yeah, he's not being his usual DC self.

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  67. is David watching the Pico match in the court ???

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  68. Yeah, of course he is. Just without the usual cheering and getting to his feet after every point his teammate wins.

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  69. and what do u think is the reason for this attitude change ? maybe he is in 2 much pain.
    btw Pico is taking full control of the match at the moment

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  70. My guess would be that he's still in pain. And maybe also thinking about what to do now.
    Apart from that - he has done his share for today, don't you think?

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  71. ya i think David's win was not just only giving the first point to Argentina, i bet Pico would have played so intense if david lost the first rubber, thats always the case in DC.

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  72. Is that another break I see? :)
    5-1???

    Too late for me to find a live stream now, i suppose. Though I would like to see David, to see what you are all talking about. I've seen nothing of him today. :(

    Go, Pico!!!

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  73. Wow, that's a relief. Great job by Pico.

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  74. Yeah, well done, Pico. :)
    And aww at the hug he gave David after the match was over.

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  75. damn i couldnt see any of it, anybody recorded picos match lol ?

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  76. vamooooooooooooos Argentina;
    very good job by monaco. now argentina had advantage 2-0

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  77. Noubar - nope. Recording David's match was enough "fun" for today...

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  78. Looks like were gunna have another injury plagued season from our man. To bad, he started the season so well but I guess thats the price we all must pay for watching such beautiful tennis. If only I could have followed him at his prime years when he contended and went deep in the slams. Hopefully he gets well for when I go to Cincinnati to watch the masters, otherwise I might not get to see him live ever in my life. Good win for him though Vamos!

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  79. John H, I feel like that too. I wish I'd started following David properly much earlier. I've been the last two years to Roland Garros, Wimbledon and Queen's - and obviously missed him - and last year I bought tickets to Boodles specifically to see David (though it was interesting even without him there).

    And it's not looking likely right now that I'll see him in any of those places this year either.

    All those years I could have gone to see him but didn't. :(

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  80. As a proud Nalby fan since 2002 I must say that I enjoy his play the same amount now as a did in probably his best years(2004-2007).

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  81. Well,

    David's cry ws indeed from pain, during the interview on court he barely could talk, he was choking with tears (Never saw him like that, not even after the Soderling match)
    He even said he suffered a lot, since the first set an that surprised him, his team and the DC team a lot. Also he felt kind of desperate because he knew he couldn't lose this match.
    Even cried during a change of sides... I think that resumes all.

    But, I never saw him cry like that,he couldn't stop and he could barely talk after the match.
    I think he got really scared and never expected suffer that amount of pain. He got an injection to play without any hurt (here called Infiltracion: an injection IN the zone to stop automatically the pain during a short amount of time, it's not a treatment is jut to let the person do certain activity, after that hurst like hell, often the injection itself hurst a lot too).
    All was way, way , WAY worste that what they expected, and according to some people there, the team was really worry/scared for him.

    He said, at the press conference that he started ok, but in the middle of the 1 set he was in pain already. He tried to speed things (the second set 6-2) and he started to feel even worst; he tried to regulate, and he lost the third set.

    I never, ever heard him said his pain was terrible and he felt horrible on court. This coming from the guy who played a year with his hip broken. Don't know if you could see the last point and the interview, even if you can't understand spanish. It's was really moving. I can't imagine how much he suffered during that match, mostly because as I said, nobody expected tat amount of pain and he got worse everytime. For the first time in his carrer the DC team's doctor attended David on court (a pill and some spray)

    He also started to feel pain in other parts /(aductor and leg in general). But the only moment he showed pain (it was clear that he wasn't able to move ok, but not gesture) was during the last set at the breatk point: he couldn't move after that.

    It's pretty much confirmed THAT HE IS OUT OF THE TIE. He even said, infront of the people that he couldn't even walk and playing like that is a lack of respect to his team mates.

    Also, the Pico/David hug after Pico's match? great gesture from Pico (he was the one who got close to David, who barely could get up)

    At least,I think he'll understand that he needs surgery. If he coulnd't play with that type of injection, he won't be able to do it without getting cured

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  82. Thanks for the details, Anna. It's really sad to read about David feeling like this.

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  83. For me, the problem is that I don't think any of this is new. We've had it all before, three years ago...
    As I've said, I just hope the consequences won't be as bad as they were, back then.

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  84. But I remember that match, Julia. I think he ended in tears from relieve and pain, but even then it wasn't like today.

    I felt really bad for him, watching the match I just wanted the match ended. He was suffering a lot. And I think the worst part was that, at least at the Soderling one, he knew what to expecte: he knew he was going to enter the court a suffer like a hell. Today, he never thought he was going to reach that level of pain. His team and the DC's one never thought that either. And I think he felt desperate because he knew this point was the basic one to have a chance. It was the "easy one", even if Ungur played better than what I expected for a 185. The real difference was at the 2 set when David tried to speed up things.
    Against Soderling, he ended in terrible too. He cried, less than today. But also were tears of relieve. You could see the minute that match ended, his adrenaline stopped and he didn't have more energy.
    Today, the cry was more related to pain, desperation and impotence. Way more bitter than the other one. He was chocking during the interview, he couldn't stop crying... and the fisrt thing he said was "I tried... I did what I could... I just couldn't left the court.." and then he started to cry again.
    Against Soderling, you knew n other player of the team could win. Here, and I think that was part of David's anguish during the match... even Schwank could do it. And once he was inside, he couldn't left. It was more David against his body, than anything else.
    I felt really bad.
    I just wish he gets a surgery to end this. The good thing, at least for now, he got the message about the risks of playing DC not being 100% fit. Today he almsot couldn't end a match that Chela, Schwank or Monaco could have won it. I hope he doesn't forget it.

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  85. He ruined his hip during the Söderling match. He came out if it with an injury that required surgery. And afterwards he said that he never ever suffered so much on a tennis court.
    I don't want to argue with you about which match was more horrible to watch or after which one David cried more, or harder.
    All I hope that is that today's match won't prove to be as momentous as the Söderling one.

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  86. Yes, he said that this time.
    At least with his hernia, we knew the only permanent and real solution was surgery, even before this match. I just hope this convinced David about doing it quickly as possible, if he had any doubts before.
    But as I said, probably at that time he knew he was going to suffer like never before. Today he went believing (he got the "infiltracion" to play) he was going to feel just some pain. The amount of what he felt took him for surprise. Him and the team. Mostly because this match was accesible for the other players. The Soderling one, he went like the suicidal one because he knew nobody could take him.
    In today's case? I HOPE it ends in surgery just to end all this.
    Even if it's only for his DC's obsession: he admitted he barely could take the ATP 185, how is he going to play against any other with that?

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  87. Anna, that's what I was thinking: Why did David have to go through all this pain and suffering for a match that 3 guys on the team could easily win?

    All this to find out for sure what kind of condition he was in?

    I guess the answer is nobody thought that David's problem's were that bad? So, obviously they were all wrong and now they know what to do -- get that surgery over with. To me that's the good news and I'm sure we'll see more of David in the future because of this definitive decision -- instead of dragging this whole thing on.

    I guess we all know now. No more wondering.

    I commend David for his heroics and incredible tolerance for pain all in the interest of the DC, so I don't want this post to sound negative.....but doesn't it seem surprising that nobody on the team thought this type of match was possible? David was lucky he did not have to default. There was always that possibility. Why was that risk taken?
    I guess it's cause you and Julia have said: David rules/controls the entire team. He makes all the decisions.

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  88. Anna, no, he said that back then.

    Joe, according to David, the problems only began during the match and he was feeling good, going into it. So even if he and the team maybe thought there could be problems, they couldn't foresee that it would be David's adductor that would cause him such trouble.

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  89. Julia, oh boy, I'm confused.
    Sound like David has a new injury...the adductor. I thought it was about the hernia. I'll have to reread your posts.
    Thanks!

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  90. Yes, sorry. I wrote it wrong. I wantes to said "He said those words that time"

    I understood that first it was his hernia, inguinal zone or whatever that started to hurt and after that, the aductor. And I think the people of the tv transmition said that too.

    He honestly seemed to felt ok. At the press conference he said something like we can't lie here, the captain must know how we are really. I believe him when he says he was not expecting this at all. Not sure if the people from his team or the DC one should have seen this coming. I do remember when I get the "infiltracion" (really, there is no word for this on english?) didn't last for long, less than an hour and a half. It's common for soccer players get another shot in the middle time because they start to feel pain again, so.... And also it's true that when the effects are gone it hurts worst. To the point of asking yourself WTF?! I'll never do that again (and I never did).
    He was getting a therapy called TACER (don't ask me what the letters means), and from the videos that I've seen on youtube and tv, he was moving ok or almost normal, no near what he was today since almost the beggining of the match.
    But I believe him that he thought he was going to be ok, or at least something bareable.

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  91. from waht he said, it was like at some point it started to hurt his adductor and all his leg. Perhaps because trying to protect one zone he exposed another or is just some minor pain.
    But he didn't say that it was a "new pain" or new injury. More like it hurted like hell and then also started to hurt other parts.At least at some interview he said that.

    Whatever, David needs a surgery now, the pain won't go away without it.

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  92. "adductor strain" is the same as a "groin pull".

    I wonder if this was caused independent of the hernia or as a consequence?

    I remember getting a slight groin pull a while back because I hadn't played on clay in a year ... I was somewhat out of shape and the hard sliding used different muscles. The groin pull wasn't too bad and took about a month to recover.

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  93. You never know, but David might rationalize to heal from the groin pull and decide not to get the surgery. Just a guess.

    I'd really like to hear a Doctor's assessment of what happened.

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