Tuesday, March 1, 2011

David: I think I'll be ready on Friday


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UpdateII (03/03)
Tamar (thanks!) from VD's partner site David Nalbandian Es Un Ídolo Total is at the Parque Roca these days and she has posted these links in the comments - but I'll post them here again so that everybody can see them.
Tamar has taken lots of photos, of David training and at the press conference (and she'll continue to take more and add them to her gallery). See them here.
And she has also made a video of Wednesday's training session, you can watch it here.


Today it was time for David and the rest of the team to face the press at the Parque Roca after the first training session of the day - which apparently took place without David. Which doesn't have to mean anything, after all he did only one session of reportedly "light training" yesterday. But whether he took to the practice court in the afternoon I haven't been able to find out yet.
(Edit: He did train with Juan Monaco in the afternoon; source.)
However, David did show up at the press conference. And about his injury problems, his current state and the chances of him, playing on Friday he had the following to say:
"The treatment I'm receiving has been good for me and I can say that I'm better than I expected. I think that I'll be ready on Friday."
Which sounds good, given the circumstances. Then again, it also sounds like the kind of statement that could be expected from David in this context. And I'd like to add that there's still no official verdict on the exact nature of the injury though in the media, it's now almost exclusively described as an inguinal hernia (adding that it's a "very small one").
Apart from that, David also made it clear why he's even trying to play this tie, despite of his current injury situation.
"Everybody knows that the Davis Cup is very important to me, it means a lot [to me] and therefore I'm willing to make an effort that maybe I wouldn't be making for a tournament on the Tour."
And if he could have it his way, he'd be doing even more for the Argentine team but with the situation being what it is, the most important thing is to win this tie.
"Argentina is always the favourite, playing at home and in my particular case, I want to play on all three days but together with Vázquez we're analysing what's going to be the best strategy."
(Source.)
Right now, according to the press, it looks like the strategy will be that David and Juan Monaco will play singles on Friday, while Juan Ignacio Chela and Eduardo Schwank will play the doubles. On Sunday, Chela could take David's place.

Update
Here's another quote from the press conference which makes it sound like it's not really clear yet whether David will be able to play on Friday.
"Playing at home is always great because of the competition and even more so because of the crowd. The idea is that if I'm well, and Tito orders it that way, I can be there on the first day. Yesterday I trained a little better than I expected and today it has been tougher. We'll assess what happens during the week to make a decision."
(Source.)
Meanwhile, there are more and more speculations in the press about David having surgery, maybe already after this tie (like here). In that case, David would be out at the very least until Wimbledon. But perhaps, missing the clay season wouldn't be such a very bad idea... We'll see.

67 comments:

  1. I think he will play the second rubber too if Argentina doesnt finish business in the first two days.

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  2. Yeah, that could very well happen... Both Argentina not winning it in two days (I think the Romanians have a good chance of taking the doubles) and David thinking he has to save the day and play again on Sunday.

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  3. Anna - what happened with your comment? Did you delete it? It's gone all of a sudden.

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  4. What comment+ I didn-t post here.
    I talked in the other thread.
    Well, my internet is a little crazy today

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  5. Thought I saw one from you here (and replied to it). Hmm... lol

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  6. Playing only one match opens the possibility of having more time to see how conservative treatment goes.

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  7. conservative treatment is just temporary, probably only to be fit for DC, it's impossible to go on like this, he will collapse on the court, the treatment is a must and apparently he will do it after the tie, but well, like Julia said, at least its the clay part of the season he will miss if so, although i really hoped and still do, that he will play my best masters tournament at Indian Wells, i wish he will give it a try and give his best knowing that he will have a long pause after it. as for the rest i couldn't care less, David is really not a clay court specialist, and his game is certainly much less effective when playing in one.

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  8. I agree that most likely conservative treatment wont solve the problem completely but I think it should be given a try at least until Indian Wells,if hes not feeling well just retire and pull out of the tournament and go to surgery,especially if what Anna says is correct,that it cant really get worse.

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  9. Well, if he has to have surgery, I'd be for getting it over with as soon as possible.

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  10. yes, if it is to be surgery, than it rather be asap. Although playing IW is not the worst idea, maybe a QF there would equal the QF points he will lose in MC

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  11. But could he make QF at IW in his current state? I wouldn't be too sure about that... And I'm not really thinking about ranking points at the moment, to be honest.

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  12. Ya,it perhaps is,Im just hoping that everything will play out well.

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  13. About making the of QF Indian Wells,no one really knows how bad it is,we will be able to say more after we see him against Crivoi or whoever the Romanians put.Since he would be a seed at IW he would only need to win two matches,not that impossible.

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  14. I thought I'd wait until the press conference to see if anything earth shattering was revealed. Obviously not. I now wish more than ever Tito had picked Zeballos to pair with Schwank for the doubles. It leaves open the possibility of David having to play a second match if the doubles team loses. I agree with you, Julia, on the surgery bit. The likely inguinal hernia diagnosis really means the treatment is surgery. These things don't get smaller, they get bigger. So the sooner the better. David can certainly still salvage his year if he doesn't procrastinate.

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  15. Adrian, I said I wouldn't be too sure about it. And I don't think anyone can be at the moment, maybe not even David himself.
    Right now, he's only doing light training and what I'm reading (via Twitter; though that's hearsay of course) is that he's not looking great. I just think it's impossible to say anything until after Friday's match.

    John, I'm not sure what you mean about Zeballos. I mean, in Chela Vázquez has an alternative for Sunday...?

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  16. Good point. Chela definitely gives the team more possibilities because of his strength as a singles player.

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  17. One could almost get the impression that this is why he went for Chela, to have a back-up singles player...

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  18. If Davids really that bad,Vasquez should be a man and play Chela,not for the good of David but for the good of the team,which is his job,but Im not sure that Nalby would go along with that.

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  19. Yeah, of course David shouldn't play if he's not fit. But that has never kept him from playing DC. And so far, no DC captain has ever stopped him from doing it.

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  20. Wouldnt be surprised If towards the very end of his career he takes up the Captain-player role.

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  21. There are those who'd say that he's been playing that role for years.

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  22. And he did say once that being DC captain would be a 'nice task' - though after retiring as a player.

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  23. Well, except Hanescu who is dangerous but Monaco and Chela could beat him on clay, the other two are ranked 180 or worst. They're at Berloq level more or less. Any of them, included Schwank could beat them.
    The problem is Vazquez doesn't have the balls that the situation needs. At least with Macini (and I can't believe I'm going to defend him) you know he has no character and left all in David's hands. But Vazquez did the same in the past or even worst: he says he takes all the decisions. But at almost the same situation he acted exactly like Mancini. Or worst. I'm talking about this: Argentina-Sweeden 2-1, the first match was against Soderling and David said "I don't know if I can do it. I'm not sure" . So if the guy who went to play injured before, who played a finale after his godson died in that horrible way, the one who always puts the DC before his careers, etc... that person is telling he's not sure? The translation ism "i'm dying of pain and I'm affraid of not ending the match" Mancini (add Monaco and Cañas who suffered a panic attack when they knew David's words) instead of saying "it's ok David, If you said that it's because you really in pain and have doubts about losing because you can't play" (after that he could go to a closed room and scream and cry like a baby, but not infront of your player). What did Mancini said "it's up to you" and all the team started to look at him like little child scare of the boggieman.
    Vazquez as captain: last point against Sweeden with a Nalbandian in the middle of the recovery of some tear and with pain in some leg or Schwank to play? Vazquez looked to Rivera and waited, Rivera looked to Schwank and waited, Schanwk did the same to Vazquez, and nobody took a f**ing decision. So David in the middle of the total silence that was that, said "I'll go" (he didn't had the balls to put the choice in David's hands) That was described by the journalist. There are no gossip or similar.
    So, now what Vazquez has to do is keep David with the team (because he gives confidence just being there) and not making him play: Put Chela against Hanescu, Monaco against the 2 and the doubles.
    But I have no hope for that because Vazquez is just another Mancini. At least with some S.O.B. like they say Tarpishev is, you know he's playing you into doing it. That he plays minds games with his players. I could respect that. Those two, Mancini & Vazquez? They do this because they're pathetic.

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  24. I think that there is pretty much no chance of David not playing on Friday.

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  25. The only chances of David not playing? Only if David is almost unconscious from the pain or not being able to walk (ok, I'm exagerating a little, but JUST a little)
    And I don't know if the press is just repeating or waht but they're talking more about a surgery after the DC. But still, they don't quote sources.

    for example, the press was doing a big fuss because David didn't train in the morning like that was unexpected... According to Despertate, that was planned. David will train only one turn. Media that usually doesn't cover tennis talks because it's the DC and they can't see the difference between tennis and basketball

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  26. I dont speak Spanish so I cant really follow the news.What I hear is from here.I dont even think Ive seen any news about it in English or on tennis sites,probably not many people even know outside of Argentina and people who visit VD.Also I think his people have not put anything up on his official site either.

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  27. Anna, I'll have to disagree about the press here, because I'm from a country where tennis doesn't really matter at all anymore and where none of the players would ever get anywhere near the media attention that David and the other players get on a regular basis. Even if it's DC time.

    And although in the past, I sometimes wished that the DC captain would stop David from playing when he wasn't fit, I still think that it's also David himself who is to blame for all of this DC madness.

    And the info policy adopted by David and his camp is something that I've complained about before.

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  28. I just read some of the comments and its funny how someone called David unrealistic about playing Youzhny in a best of 5 match...he went on to beat Davy and Youzhny in straights.You never know in tennis,its what makes it beautiful.

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  29. That's very true. :)
    It's just that the info policy problem remains...

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  30. Of course David is responsable. But when it's about the DC he's like a three years old boy. And in those cases you need a Captain with balls to stop him.

    The press, since the "Legion Argentina" born with Gaudio, Cañas, Calleri, Chela, Zabaleta and then Coria, Nalbandian, and Del Potro follows the tennis players way often than they did.
    And since David's devotion to the DC, being a top player and always being there to play ans showing his best tennis in some series (some of them were won by him) is a topic the press always follows. The problem is not all the media understand tennis and when a DC tie is close all the papers, all the jorunalist talks about the DC or even travel to other countries and a good part of them don't know really what are they talking about. You have the people from sports channels or the ones that always worked at the sport section (when they're not specialist of tennis) but also, with among them you can find a journalist that covers showbusiness and went there too. not a lot with the first rounds but for SF? in Lyon the past year you had the people that always is there when it's about tennis and other ones that had no idea what a raquet is.

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  31. @ Adrian: it's tennis and it's David... You can never know LOL

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  32. You see, that's exactly the difference. If the German team plays an away tie then hardly anybody at all will be travelling with them and the news you'll get will be very, very sparse...
    All I'm saying is - it's really not that bad. ;)

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  33. And David is a grown-up man. If he insists on acting like a child when it comes to DC - then that's his decision.

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  34. No sign of German reporters in Croatia yet.The press here on the other hand is pretty interested as well in DC.There are interviews with Cilic,Dodig,Kohlschreiber,articles about who they think will be the second singles player for Germany and many other things.I guess the disinterest in Germany is because of there high hopes in players,even the likes of Haas and Kiefer didnt please them.Tennis will be back in Germany but it will take a GS winner,or maybe a top 5 star.

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  35. Yeah, I wasn't expecting anything else...
    Tennis here was all about Becker. And yeah, it will need a big new star to create some interest again.

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  36. Hamburg losing its Masters 1000 status didnt help the cause either.

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  37. Nope...
    I still like it though that David and I share the same childhood idol - Becker. :)

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  38. Didnt know he was a Becker fan,always thought it was Vilas,even tho he might have been a bit too young to actually watch him.I would have too say Ivanisevic for me,winning a GS as a WC at Wimbledon ranked outside of the top 100,and on top of it,just being pure crazy in a funny way.

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  39. Yeah, it was Becker David admired, growing up. And of course I really liked that when I found out about it. :)
    Becker and Ivanisevic were my favourite players, growing up. And that was also my favourite match-up. I watched many of the matches they played against each other.

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  40. Well, Anna, even if it's a show biz reporter, you should be glad that the Argentine press at least covers DC. In the U.S., unless it's the final you wouldn't even know about it. I take that back. I saw a one sentence item in the back of the Sports Page today stating that Sam Querrey was injured and couldn't play against Chile. BTW, did anybody see the Agassi v Sampras exho in New York last night? The boys still have it, they just can't move as quick as they used to. And speaking of injections, Agassi had to have one in his back several days ago so he could play last night. Yep, Boris was good. I liked him too, except when he played Connors.

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  41. How did that one go? No, I didn't watch it. As I was neither a fan of Agassi nor, especially, Sampras...
    Haha, I take it you were a fan of Connors, then? ;)

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  42. I heard Sampras took it,they are still young guys haha,speaking of veterans,Mark Philippoussis got a WC for IW qualifying.The word is hes out of cash and is attempting a comeback.

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  43. 6-3, 7-5 Sampras. I wasn't a big fan of either of them. Pete certainly had a smooth game, though. I didn't like Connors at first, but he grew on me. He was the ultimate warrior. I'll never forget the U.S. Open in 1991 when he made it to the semis at age 39.

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  44. I really didn't like Sampras. He was basically the reason I stopped following tennis for several years. Though if I see him now, I get all nostalgic... lol
    Connors I don't really remember. Though he was still around when I started watching tennis. Since then I've heard a lot about him. And mostly not really nice things, to be honest. Though his results certainly speak for themselves.

    Adrian, hasn't Philippoussis pulled out again? I've read that on MTF. No idea if it's true.

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  45. Yeah,I just read the same post on MTF,what a shame,I actually see a poster of him everyday since a pretty big sports store which is near where I live has a huge picture of him taking a big rip at a backhand.Its been there since the place opened,I cant believe they still have him.I guess his female fan base is still strong :).

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  46. I think most of the negative impressions of Connors came from earlier in his career. The reason I didn't like him at first was that, to be honest, he was a cocky punk. But he mellowed. Sort of. Still, he was a hot headed Irishman, like McEnroe. His forte, though, was his aggression, taking the ball early, and opening up the court. He constructed points, a lot like Nalbandian. Didn't have a big serve, and similar to David, had to work hard for his points. A lot of fun to watch.

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  47. He tried to be a nice guy towards the end of his career,even though that gained him some new fans he probably lost some old ones who liked his fighting,acting like a big shot style.Legendary player all in all.

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  48. Well, what I seem to read/hear a lot about are his psychological warfare abilities and the different ways he made use of those, including getting umpires to grant him points etc...

    And as for Philippoussis... Eww
    Maybe they're just very lazy.

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  49. Thats most likely what the problem is,I should give them some advice to change it.Ill suggest that they put Nalbandian.

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  50. Yep, Adrian, that would be true. Despite his combative nature, though, he was more of a crowd pleaser than Hewitt. Aussies might disagree, however.

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  51. Hi Julia and everyone :)
    I've uploaded pics from yesterday (tuesday) training session in Parque Roca on "David Nalbandian es un idolo total" page un facebook. Hope you all like them :)

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  52. I just read that Philippoussis withdrew from Indian Wells, so that he could play the seniors tour in Zurich instead. Unbelievable. He shouldn't have asked for a wildcard in the first place.

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  53. I guess he gets more money playing on the Champions tour.

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  54. Hi All,

    Enjoying all the different topics and ideas people are putting out.

    One thing I am puzzled about. On one hand, David just recently learned he has a hernia injury, yet he has had this for years. So does this mean he finally found out becuase it is making him play worse?
    I believe so, but maybe only on clay?
    and not hard courts?

    [we don't know because we are all in a fog about this injury -- I think]

    If he is not really much worse, I could see him going back to hard courts and IW and doing well and improving his ranking a bit more if he gets good results...maybe QF?

    If he found out he has a hernia and is not playing worse on the hard, then I can see how he can convince himself he doesn't need surgery.
    I mean, he did play a good amount of hard courts since last summer and had no problems, right?

    On the other hand, his hernia, may cause him to reach a wall at #10 ranking or so. Even though he does not seem to injure it on hard courts, it may be a thing that prevents him from training properly or fully to jump into the top 5 or so.

    This may be a bit mute point, since he is a DC nut, and has to play on clay.
    As soon as he starts playing more clay, hiss problems may become worse....of course that's if he plays a bunch of long matches. If he gets away with maybe just one semi-hard match and an easy match, maybe he can prolong surgery or rationalize it away.....again, especially if he racks wins on hard courts and keeps climbing the rankings; maybe there is a part of him that still likes that and does not want to stop.

    David's thinking appears a little strange, but I am maybe starting to see more his side of how he rationalizes.

    Hey, getting to maybe #8 ranking or so with a hernia....why get surgery? And he only has to last one or two occasional clay matches for DC....not the same level of intensity as a week long ATP clay tourney.

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  55. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3iHxJbPFc4

    David training, by Tamar

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  56. I watched the video and I can't tell much about how he's feeling.

    Does he do any heavy running and sliding during his training? :)

    ps...thanks for the video

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  57. Well, today's David/s report:

    1) He trained HARD and in two sessions. One against Chela: no problem with the drive (the one that was causing him pain) or the backhand. He was erratic in some shots, so Vazquez made him hit a ball during a minute not letting the ball went out. That was repeated for 30 minutes.

    2) He didn't feel bad and he says he feels better than expected.

    3) According to this http://www.elcomercial.com.ar/index.php?option=com_telam&view=deauno&idnota=30783&Itemid=116
    David WILL need surgery. The recovering time is estimated in two months. The original source was Telam (the official argentine news office) and they quoted someone from the DC team, not David's.

    I'd try to find more.

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  58. 2 months isnt that bad,would be ready for the French,right?

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  59. IF the time the quoted is correct. It's almost a bargain. From this point of view: already he was going to avoid the clay courts, now worst. If the surgery makes the problem go away and the recovering time happens during the clay season? That's great. Also, he could ask Protected Ranking, just in case, being a top 20. For the ATP1000 of the indoor season if he can't play or is not 100% for the US hard season and is not able to defend points.
    A surgery is a surgery but it's not huge as the hip one and it all could happen during the clay season.

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  60. Thanks for sharing your wonderful photos, Tamar.

    And thanks for the local updates, Anna.

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  61. Thanks for the info, Anna. I would say that if David has to have surgery, now is the best time. They fix inguinal hernias with mesh now, so after you get over the pain, you're pretty much good to go, So two months sounds right.

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  62. guys, i've done this vid and put it on you tube! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWriX9yTvTs

    its about today's (wednesday) training session. hope you all like it :)

    and if someone wants to have a look to my pics, here they are: http://www.facebook.com/footfault#!/album.php?aid=49158&id=120996084591770
    (i update the album every day).

    Istabraq, i'm happy you like them :)
    Joe, so now you are going to be able to watch more about David at the court today :)

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  63. Thank you, Tamar. And good to see you here again. :) I've posted your links on the front page now, so everyone gets to see them. (It took a while because I wasn't here, yesterday.)

    About the surgery speculations - as I've said above, I'd be for doing it as soon as possible. To miss the clay season would indeed not be too bad for David, anyway. And I doubt that he'd play RG as the first event, coming back. Even if that was possible. But first of all, we'll have to see whether he'll have surgery after DC.

    And thanks for the update, Anna. Though David won't be able to get a protected ranking unless he's out for at least six months.

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  64. Thank you all for those updates! Thank you very much Anna for the David news!

    And huge thank you Tamar for those fantastic pics and videos! I enjoyed them very much!

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  65. Mina, i'm so happy you enjoy the pics and vids! :)

    Julia, thank you for put it on the front page! and there is no problem you took some time because you weren't with a computer :)

    in one hour is the lot (at 11am local time), it will take place at the argentinian goverment. they never did it there, they used to do it at parque roca or at a hotel. so, we will see :) of course i will be there! and then will upload the pics and vids!

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  66. Nalbandian plays Ungur tomorrow. BAtennis is the source

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  67. Yeah, I've seen it. I'm waiting for the complete draw so I can post it.

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