Saturday, February 19, 2011

Copa Claro QF - David vs Robredo (Take #2)


(Olé)

UpdateII

If David wants to repeat his triumph at the Copa Claro, he'll have to try again next year - this season's campaign has ended with a defeat at the hands of Tommy Robredo, who won 6-4, 6-4 in just under 90 minutes.
In the second set, David seemed to have some problems with his leg after trying to retrieve a lob from Robredo. I'll try and find out what he says about it after the match.

As the match was not streamed via the usual channels, there'll be no recording, this time - sorry.

More soon...



(Reuters/Getty Images; montage by VD)

Update
1.36pm local - The match is now about to begin.

1.03pm local - The rain has stopped (for now) and they're preparing the court.
The plan at the moment is for David's match to start at 1.30pm.

11.59am local - it's raining again...
11.50am local - the rain has just stopped and looks like the match could start soon.


Theoretically, this would've been semifinals day at the Copa Claro.
Practically, it is now quarterfinals and semifinals day.

With David's match against Tommy Robredo on Cancha Central and two other quarterfinal matches on other courts scheduled to start at noon, local time (3pm GMT/10am EST).
And the one quarterfinal that got underway yesterday, Chela vs Montañes, to be finished after David's match.
The semifinal matches are scheduled for the evening. And if David makes it through to semis, he'll play the first match of the night session again, not before 7pm local (10pm GMT/5pm EST).
- Or at least, that's the plan.

The good news is that there'll be a stream for David's match against Robredo. Which is not always the case when there's a revised schedule and matches get moved to a different day.

The bad news is that again, rain is forecast for Buenos Aires...

In other words, we might be in for more waiting and general chaos.
I'll try my best to keep you posted...

116 comments:

  1. hey Julia, u know whats the organizers policy in case there has been a Quarter final delay again, say they couldn't play all the quarters today, they surely won't play the quarter, semi and the final in the same day, will they ? lol
    hope the weather holds today, and we get to c David in the semis.

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  2. It would be difficult if there was a rain delay today again because of Acapulco, I think. It starts on monday and if BA has to play finals on monday, it will be close with Acapulco...
    I keep everything crossed that weather is ok, so that it can be played today!

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  3. Noubar, I don't know, really. I mean, there have been occasions where a player had to play 3 matches in one day.
    But I guess if the QFs can't take place today, they might have to add an extra day of play. - With all the complications that would mean for Acapulco. Travel, four-hour time difference...
    Yeah, we can only hope that the weather will be better today.

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  4. i really hope to c David in 50 minutes

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  5. Just seen pictures of the court and it's... raining. :(
    Also saw David, looking up at the sky together with Chela. And the sky doesn't look too bad, actually. So maybe they'll be able to start soon-ish. But not at noon...

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  6. julia, can u give me the link of the pictures? i would like to have a look

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  7. I can only give you a link.
    - For those who want to keep an eye on situation - you can watch TyC Sports, the Argentine broadcaster of the Copa Claro,here.

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  8. Back at the BALTC - it's looking better now, umbrellas are being put away. :)

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  9. thanks Julia, hope match kicks off soon

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  10. The court looks bad as in really wet. But I guess they might start soon.

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  11. ya, but i see no rain though

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  12. just saw, umbrellas out, ppl wearing that green thing again, i should have never talekd

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  13. Is it just me or is this absolutely annoying?

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  14. annoying because we dont know whats next.

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  15. Wow! Just saw the stadium and it's a swamp.

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  16. looks like this tournament wont have a winner this year, just 8 quarterfinalists lol

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  17. They should get that tent cover they have at Wimbledon at more tournaments.Even if the rain stopped this second the court looks like it would take a long time to dry.

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  18. I think they're going to get the matches down. They are just going to have to play very late into the night, probably 1 or 2 am local time.

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  19. it depends what do u mean by "matches" the QFs or the Sfs as well, i dont see a semifinal match today, lets hope at least they get to play the quarters, maybe sunday semis monday final, and the Acapulco organizers may take BA late arrivals in consideration while making the OOP

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  20. That sounds realistic, Noubar. Of course it has to quit raining. Acapulco, I'm sure would accommodate, since 7 of the 8 quarterfinalists are playing there. They've got to get the quarters done today, though.

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  21. There might be a chance to start the match soon, they're preparing the court right now.

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  22. thank you Julia, finally some good news, rain go awaaaay.

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  23. They're planning to start play at 1.30pm local, i.e. in less than half an hour.

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  24. but does that mean the court is gonna be so much slower ? David doesn't like that. I remember they bring dry clay and spread it all over the court in order to suck the moist.

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  25. noubar, I don't care if the court is fast or slow. It's Robredo for crying out loud. I don't see the need to be so worried. Robredo is even more Nalbandian's whipping boy than Gasquet. We should want one thing and one thing only: for this match to begin so that Nalbandian can just get it over with and be on to the semis. I wouldn't be so worried about the QF match; Nalbandian owns Robredo and can only lose to him if he plays absolutely awful.

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  26. If this was the quarters or semis of Roland Garros with Djokovic on theother side, then yes, I'd be more worried about the slow conditions.

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  27. The links to our matches have disppeared from the Bet365 list. Earlier they were just pushing the times back.

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  28. Yeah, that's why I've posted the justin.tv links. As a backup.

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  29. Great, the first justin I tried works for me. Thanks.

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  30. david looking good at the moment, he doesnt seem upset at all.

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  31. The two errors to fall to 0-30 at 4-4 were just atrocious. But they were predictable to anyone who knows Nalbandian and how he responds to not breaking.

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  32. Nalbandian's one-dimensionality showing in this match. He's trying to hit through Robredro instead of hitting slices and coming into net.

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  33. Might be the fact that he's trying to conserve energy for the semifinal later on today.

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  34. If he was one-dimensional then he wouldn't have other options, anyway.

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  35. Way to completely miss the point, anonymous. First of all, he has been using the slice quite a bit. Secondly, they're not playing the type of match that really allows for coming to net much.

    To call Nalbandian one-dimensional is nonsense.

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  36. Well, Nalbandian's whipping boy just stole the 1st set

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  37. The reason he lost the set is quite simple: a lack of concentration and a lack of crispness in those numerous games in which he almost broke. He cruised through his service games, only to take Robredo to deuce numerous times and then squander it. That's the reason if you're looking for one anonymous.

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  38. Noubar, why don't you go look at the Monte Carlo highlights from 2008 or last year, or what Nalbandian did to Robredo in Toronto? He has humiliated Robredo quite a few times.

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  39. Nalbandian missing an overhead winner at net when the match is at 4-4 has nothing to do with Robredo being good (to Noubar) or Nalbandian being one-dimensional (to Anonymous). He's just playing sloppy, plain and simple.

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  40. I don't understand why you all are so modest about Nalbandian. Just look at the first two games of the second set - he is clearly superior to Robredo, to put it kindly.

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  41. finally the break, smash him king

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  42. Nalby braincramping a set away is nothing new,unfortunately.

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  43. we know his game is way much better, but that doesnt mean he cannot lose by serving bad or making way too many UEs

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  44. I came to watch the match from the begin of the 2nd set, but Justin TV doesn't work for me or only a minute. Then it shows me to get premium account because there are to many viewers

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  45. and he holds, nicely done 3-0

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  46. some ppl holding umbrellas, there must be some rain drops we cannot c

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  47. and gifts him the break back, awesome

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  48. why break if you're just going to throw it in the trash by hardly even paying attention to the match once it's your serve?

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  49. How many times has Nalbandian struggled against such inferior players like this for no good reason? Too many to count.

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  50. By your definition, he exclusively gets to play "inferior players".

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  51. great, and now an injury to boot. what the ----. Twice he's leaned over like he did against Tsonga in Paris.

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  52. Anyone else sense an Acapulco pullout announcement on the horizon?

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  53. the first time since his comeback I saw David running so long, and immediately he got a problem, hopefully not something serious.

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  54. one thing is certain, that tommy cant play any better, this is the best he has, and nalbandian can surely raise his level and start making the damage. nice hold at 3-3, at last

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  55. Tommy is maybe in topform. I watch this match since 3:1 for David and can't tell much. But David has everything to beat him, he only just seem ready today.

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  56. i think david was feeding tommy's forehand way too much. nice drop btw

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  57. Robredo is the harder server, but David is hitting the ball harder than him. It shows that David has problems with his serve, but he has it always....
    ... nice shot from Tommy, and from David lol

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  58. If Tommy and most of other players are serving near the line, it is mostly an ace or service winner, but for David it is no service winner.

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  59. Just gifts the game away again at 4-4, lol

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  60. This is the David in a bad day. losing the first set with 4:6, leading the second with 3:0 but then winning only one game.

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  61. the crowd is disturbing Robredo more than David lol

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  62. what a disgrace. At least he won't get hurt playing later today or tommorrow.

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  63. Nalbandian has done a remarkable job with disappointing his fans once again..even with the best double fault gifted to give david a 0-30 lead, he couldnt win a single point after it just to set a single break point, he was totally outplayed by Robredo

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  64. I'd be very surprised if he stays in Acapulco after all that wincing and leaning over in pain. I know this is his home tournament, but I just don't see why you would risk injury at a clay event unless it is Davis Cup, an MS event, or Roland Garros.

    He's probably going to announce an injury in the press conference.

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  65. Now we must hope that he is not injured, or there is nothing serious.

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  66. Delpo is from Argentina, but he's in Memphis this week. No one in Argentina is crucifying him for it. As it stands, it appearst that Nalbandian has severely re-aggravated his hip injury. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if he only plays DC and then withdraws from Indian Wells and Miami.

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  67. How do you know that no one in Argentina is crucifying Delpo for it?

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  68. Others are running and risking always when it is necessary.

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  69. But nothing happens 95%. When David is running than it is a big risk that he gets injured.
    I haven't seen the first set.
    Do you think he could be injured from the beginning of the match?

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  70. Julia, even if they are, I'm sure people in Argentina could pardon Nalbandian on the simple grounds that his doctors have repeatedly told him that clay is the worst surface for him in terms of health risk. I don't think the Argentineans would have much of a problem if Nalbandian said it that way. He's already won this event and he's played in front of the home crowd numerous times.

    But now is a new phase in which he has to be extra-cautious about his health. Again, I can't see any reason for playing on clay unless it's DC, MS, or Grand Slam. The risk is just too high.

    I love watching Nalbandian play, but I don't like seeing him lean over and wince time after time either. If that makes me evil, then please tell me.

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  71. He was playing and moving well at the start. Better than I expected under the circumstances. So no, he wasn't injured, going into this match.
    He apparently experienced some pain in the second set. Whether it's something serious - impossible to tell. What it could be is another muscular strain or tear. But hze has certainhly not "seriously aggravated" his hip problem.

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  72. Delpo is clearly blowing off this event by playing in the States, especially at his young age. The same could not be said of Nalbandian if he was to play in the States after having played the Copa Telmex as many times as he has.

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  73. My comment above was in reply to Ashot.

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  74. Oh great, another muscle tear. How wonderful!!!!! Just a muscle a tear everybody!!! That means he can skip every event until the summer hardcourt season again, except Davis Cup. When does the Washington draw come out?

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  75. Chris, unfortunately it's possible.
    Santiago second round, here the third round. It's going bad for David like in the last few years. With the difference that he plays now good but makes many UE in defeats.

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  76. Right now, nobody knows whether he's injured, at all. No need to get hysterical, just yet, Chris.

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  77. I only saw part of the 1st set and then from 4-3 in the 2nd to the end. What's this about an injury. My stream was so bad I couldn't tell.

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  78. Perhaps it is better not to go to Acapulco from what I read ATP is warning players to go too early there and asked them to limit their movement because of violence threat...

    I hope there is nothing serious, keeping fingers crossed and thinking positive until the negative is definitive.

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  79. Do you remember how David reacted when he got injured last year on clay? Comepare his reaction from that moment with this from today and we will know how big is the risk.

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  80. I'm not going to speculate here. Instead, I'll look for any news I can find about this and post it.

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  81. Not looking good this season my fellow Nalbandian fans,not looking good at all.

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  82. After David's second tournament in summer he has only disappointing defeats, only the second round defeat of AO was not very disappointing because he showed the tennis fans in the world a very good match. I don't remember in last years if David has won a moved match... do you?

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  83. Just speculation, then? Good. I'm going to think positive.

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  84. John, it could be some muscular problem again - could also be nothing. No choice but to wait and see.

    As for expectations (and disappointments), I think my perspective on this is very different from some of the posters here.

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  85. great, David made my weekend unhappy... I don't want to blame him but I want to say so because I am disappointing.
    Chris, before these both defeats here and in Santiago you was sure that he will win but it seems that we must be careful with our sayings when David has to play, lol

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  86. From the beginning of this season I am looking forward positive, but it doesn't change anything until now. I think positive now too and expect him a good season this year but always it seems there is an unusual reason for his desappointment.

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  87. I know this loss must hurt Nalby and all of us,but if he says his goals are top 10 and maybe stealing a Grand Slam and a Davis Cup then a QF loss to Robredo in a 250 wont do that much harm to him,his tennis legacy wont be judged by did he win Buenos Aires once or twice it will be by the things a said earlier.Lets see what happens at Indian Wells and Miami and Acapulco if he plays,which he should at least try,because if he would pull out he would get a 0 point in the 500 category.

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  88. Not if he's injured. Which would be the only reason for him to pull out.

    But that's exactly what I meant about having different expectations.

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  89. Right, and David has never risked so much in a game in last time where he would lose probably and that in a quarterfinal of a 250 tournament, ok, his home tournament, but it doesn't change much.

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  90. my last comment I wrote for Adrian

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  91. True,but if he claims a injury he must not play for 30 days to avoid the 0 point,so if its nothing serious he should try.Health is most important,all in all its his and his teams call.

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  92. A rule like that would be complete news to me.

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  93. If he sends full medical documents of the injury he can appeal the 0,its on the ATP to decide,but the original rule is you cant play for a month.They did it so that elite player dont pull out of 500s.A other option is to go to the tournament to promote it,then u also avoid a 0.

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  94. That would hurt the ATP more than it would hurt the players. Anyway, my point was that the only reason for him to skip Acapulco would be an injury and that would be okay, anyway.

    For the record, so far there's no mention of an injury, neither in the Argentine press, nor on David's official site, which has an entry about the match.

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  95. But according to Fue Buena, David could decide not to travel to Acapulco because of the security problems there.

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  96. According to Argentine journalist Quique Cano, David has decided that he doesn't want to go to Acapulco but the ATP and tournament organisers aren't happy about it. So it's apparently not clear yet.

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  97. If David has anything even slightly wrong with him, I think he should blow off Acapulco on the security issue. Was just reading the Saturday paper and noticed an item about four bound and gagged men being thrown off off a 600 foot bridge there on Friday. The drug cartels are going nuts in Mexico these days. David can still get enough practice in on clay before DC.

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  98. I guess the problem right now is that he doesn't want to go but there is nothing wrong with him so he doesn't have an "alibi".

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  99. Why doesn't he "want" to go - is it because of the violence in the area?

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  100. I'm reading now that there might be some physical problems after all - but not with David's leg...

    Right now, it's all just hearsay.
    I'll wait until I find a definitive statement.

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  101. As it stands right now I'd be more surprised if he plays Acapulco than if he doesn't with how much pain he appeared to be in during the second set.

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  102. Frankly, it's better that way, as much as I would want him to play Acapulco. I say play DC and then be fresh for IW/Miami.

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  103. Well, like always with David, it will be what it will be. Personally, I'd like to see him skip Acapulco - for whatever reason. He really has nothing to prove there. Honestly, at this point in his career, any clay-court tournament he doesn't play, is a plus for him. A player of his caliber pretty much has to play Monte Carlo and Madrid or Rome before the French, but that should be it for David. Clay is an obligation for him. We've all discussed this many times, but indoor and hard is where David reigns.

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  104. Yes, John, but what it really comes down is simply injury, and nothing more. His talent for hardcourts mean nothing if he is sidelined with a muscle tear. Nalbandian is a great clay-court player; he has gone far in Rome and Roland Garros many times, but after hip surgery he should not be playing clay except at the biggest events. It's just too risky.

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  105. Exactly, Chris. I couldn't agree with you more. Everything now is predicated on having had hip surgery, so he really should only play the bigger clay events.

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  106. Yes, that's disappointing, Julia. I would rather he played Monte Carlo, and then picked either Madrid or Rome to space out his schedule better, but oh well.

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  107. Interestingly the French open is the only slam in which hes been to the SF twice,even tho hardcourt and indoor are his best surfaces.

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  108. Madrid and Rome are mandatory events, Monte Carlo is not.

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